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C47 · 21st April 2008, 07:49 AM

I am building this circuit (12DC to 12VAC) and I am having problems, first of all for the VPULSE, what should I use, a 555 timer or ua741 opamp to create a square wave....

the bigger problem is how many independant vpulse should i have....two are still managable but four are very difficult to syncronize

im pretty much late (for my project) here so dont post any more complicated inverter designs..

i removed the protection diodes for the time being....

mvs sarma · 21st April 2008, 08:00 AM

Welcome to the site. C47.
It would be better to use 555 followed by buffers to get more outputs of the same signal. If you want complimentary outputs , you may use 55 at double the frequency, divide it by2 and use the "Q" and "/Q" outputs. By the division method, you achieve 1:1 pulse ratio.

C47 · 21st April 2008, 08:08 AM

thankyou sarma,

tha complimentary idea is billiant if it is in the chip itself....

the problem with the 555 timer is also that is starts with 48Hz and climbs upto 52Hz , ie for some reason its not stable

Im using the NE555P and its doesnt have the Q'...please help

ericgibbs · 21st April 2008, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C47

the problem with the 555 timer is also that is starts with 48Hz and climbs upto 52Hz , ie for some reason its not stable

Im using the NE555P and its doesnt have the Q'...please help

hi,
Its not just the Vx drive pulse generator thats the problem.

V4/5 are in opposite phase as are V2/3. Alternating.!

V2 and V5 need to be ON at the same time, with V3 and V4 OFF, then on the next cycle,
V2/5 OFF and V3/4 ON.

The problem arises using 555 is the level shifting for the V2 and V3 pulses as they are not referenced to 0V.

Summary:

Only two phases, but V2 and V3 need level shifting.

Do you follow.?

EDIT: I am assuming that you require the 12Vac across the inductor.???

With ref to the 555 osc frequency drift, please post your circuit, what R,C type components are you using.?

C47 · 21st April 2008, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericgibbs

hi,
The problem arises using 555 is the level shifting for the V2 and V3 pulses as they are not referenced to 0V.

Summary:

Only two phases, but V2 and V3 need level shifting.

Do you follow.?

the problem is of the GND.....please stay and tell me:

what you mean by level shifting and if i manage to do that what should i do with the GNDS of V2 and V3? where should i put them....at the emitters of the top BJTs?

also are you suggesting to use one 555 timer? coz thats not possible becoz of gnd connections...

C47 · 21st April 2008, 08:18 AM

ericgibbs thankyou for helping.....

as for your reply to the edit:

well the capacitor and inductor were kind of loads...filters sort of things....please excuse my ignorance....i can run the circuit in PSpice with R as a load only too....but the problem is implementing it in real life

ericgibbs · 21st April 2008, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C47

the problem is of the GND.....please stay and tell me:

what you mean by level shifting and if i manage to do that what should i do with the GNDS of V2 and V3? where should i put them....at the emitters of the top BJTs?

also are you suggesting to use one 555 timer? coz thats not possible becoz of gnd connections...

This what I said.

See edit to my last post.

C47 · 21st April 2008, 08:23 AM

the 555 circuit:

Ra = 1kohm
Rb = 51K+91K
C = 0.1uF

and the 0.01uF is the same as in my circuit

ericgibbs please suggest how many 555 should i use?

DUTY Ratio = 49%

EDIT: I didnt use Pspice for the 555 i just tested it manually and changed RB with a potentiometer when i got 50Hz i put in a fixed resistor

ericgibbs · 21st April 2008, 08:33 AM

hi C47,

The original circuit, must you follow that design using those types of transistors.

The top two are connected as emitter followers and the bottom two as common emitter. The top two should be pnp transistors.

Is it permitted to change the original design.?

C47 · 21st April 2008, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericgibbs

hi C47,

The original circuit, must you follow that design using those types of transistors.

The top two are connected as emitter followers and the bottom two as common emitter. The top two should be pnp transistors.

Is it permitted to change the original design.?

well as long as it works.....but i dont see how pnp for the top two would help...what about the GNDs then...will they be connected to the pnp collectors?

ericgibbs · 21st April 2008, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C47

well as long as it works.....but i dont see how pnp for the top two would help...what about the GNDs then...will they be connected to the pnp collectors?

I'll post a drawing, shortly.

ericgibbs · 21st April 2008, 08:51 AM

hi C47,
This is a very basic circuit in order to demonstrate the idea.

As its a 'project' it would best if you calculated the required values.

Do you follow it OK.?

C47 · 21st April 2008, 09:06 AM

well what are those empty boxes and where did the 12V go?

and whats the red transistor for?

and where are the drives for the top two?

is this a half bridge rectifier?

EDIT : is this supposed to get rid of syuncronization issues

ericgibbs · 21st April 2008, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C47

well what are those empty boxes
They are resistor symbols

and where did the 12V go?
Its not gone anywhere, look at your original circuit.

and whats the red transistor for?
inversion of the output from the 555

and where are the drives for the top two?
thru the linking resistors

is this a half bridge rectifier?
No

EDIT : is this supposed to get rid of syuncronization issues
It does get rid of the sync problem

hi C47,
What college year is this project for.?

C47 · 21st April 2008, 09:23 AM

well for q3 i will use an opamp inverter, is that okay?

im sorry i didnt understand the linking resistor part?

is the red 5V suuposed to be 12V or is it part of the BJT inverter that you meant to use?

21st April 2008, 08:00 AM	(permalink)
mvs sarma Experienced Member	Welcome to the site. C47. It would be better to use 555 followed by buffers to get more outputs of the same signal. If you want complimentary outputs , you may use 55 at double the frequency, divide it by2 and use the "Q" and "/Q" outputs. By the division method, you achieve 1:1 pulse ratio. __________________ Regards, Sarma. Last edited by mvs sarma; 21st April 2008 at 08:02 AM.

21st April 2008, 08:33 AM	(permalink)
ericgibbs Experienced Member	hi C47, The original circuit, must you follow that design using those types of transistors. The top two are connected as emitter followers and the bottom two as common emitter. The top two should be pnp transistors. Is it permitted to change the original design.? __________________ Eric "Good enough is Perfect" PIC tutorials: Nigel's: www.winpicprog.co.uk/ Gramo's: www.digital-diy.net/ Bill's: www.blueroomelectronics.com/

21st April 2008, 09:06 AM	(permalink)
C47 New Member	well what are those empty boxes and where did the 12V go? and whats the red transistor for? and where are the drives for the top two? is this a half bridge rectifier? EDIT : is this supposed to get rid of syuncronization issues Last edited by C47; 21st April 2008 at 09:09 AM.

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21st April 2008, 08:18 AM	(permalink)
C47 New Member	ericgibbs thankyou for helping..... as for your reply to the edit: well the capacitor and inductor were kind of loads...filters sort of things....please excuse my ignorance....i can run the circuit in PSpice with R as a load only too....but the problem is implementing it in real life

21st April 2008, 09:23 AM	(permalink)
C47 New Member	well for q3 i will use an opamp inverter, is that okay? im sorry i didnt understand the linking resistor part? is the red 5V suuposed to be 12V or is it part of the BJT inverter that you meant to use?