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Old 5th March 2008, 04:57 AM   (permalink)
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Question Lightening powered???

At the risk of sounding stupid on my very first post/tread, here I go anyways, bare in mind that I started yesterday in the world of electronics/electricity.

Why has no one (correct me if I'm wrong) found a way to capt and store the power of lightening yet??? Again correct me if I'm wrong, but I read somewhere, a long time ago, that the energy contained in one lightening bolt, would be enough to sustain a big city in electricity for a whole week )or day, don't really remember).

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Old 5th March 2008, 09:44 AM   (permalink)
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There are many problems involved, like how to capture it, and how to store it, not to mention that it's a very intermittent source.
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Old 5th March 2008, 10:19 AM   (permalink)
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This question gets asked almost every couple of months.

There isn't actually that much energy in lightning anyway, it's just that it's condensed into a short period of time.
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Old 5th March 2008, 01:00 PM   (permalink)
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I agree and disagree with Hero99 about how much energy there is in lightning. There must be a large amount of energy in a cloud. By the time lightning jumps 1000 feet, and lights up the night for miles around, there is not much left for you to steel. When I worked broadcast I have seen large pieces of metal bent form the current in lightning.

It takes an hour to charge a car battery. Lightning last a very short period of time. I do no remember the real numbers from the class on lightning protection, but I believe the real energy happens for a period of time much shorter than the average observer thinks. One of the problems is that the peak energy is so high you can’t handle it and the average is so low you can’t use it. A mega watt for 1/100 of a second once a week = almost nothing.
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Old 5th March 2008, 05:09 PM   (permalink)
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Well, thank you all very much for your explanations.
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Old 5th March 2008, 06:24 PM   (permalink)
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Once super capacitors become standard it may be possible.
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Old 5th March 2008, 08:07 PM   (permalink)
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It's important to understand the distinction between power and energy. Power is V*I. A lightning strike has trillions of watts, for several microseconds.

Energy is another thing. It's V*I*T. A common estimate of a typical lightning strike is a billion joules (sounds like a lot?). If you captured and stored it with 100% efficiency, you would need a direct strike every two weeks at every home powered this way.
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Old 5th March 2008, 08:39 PM   (permalink)
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...you would need a direct strike every two weeks at every home powered this way.
I didn't meant to rely solely on that form of energy, but if we had the techno. to do so, it would still be that much more energy that could be used and didn't sent 1000 of tons of Co2 in the atmosphere in the process.

+ I'm sure that, as technology develops, they would find ways to attract & catch more strikes on each different storm...

But as I said, I'm a newbie and I'm far from grasping all the intricate concepts of electronics yet, so I'm not arguing here, just discussing & learning.

Thanks again to all who took a bit of their time to feed my hungry mind.

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Old 5th March 2008, 10:00 PM   (permalink)
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I think we need to find someone who can finish Tesla's work. He had many ideas about "free" energy. I use "free" loosely.
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Old 6th March 2008, 01:42 AM   (permalink)
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Again, a distinction is in order, between free energy and free transmission.
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Old 6th March 2008, 01:55 AM   (permalink)
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Well sorry. to be fair, it would have been free energy if it wasn't for westinghouse...
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To be fair to George Westinghouse, energy would be free except for the laws of thermodynamics.
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Old 10th March 2008, 01:07 PM   (permalink)
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If you get a big enough metl pole, i'm sure you could attract as many lightning strikes as you wanted, but as the others have said, there is no device that has the ability to capture 1000A at over 1million V + in less than a second
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It may be a little off topic, but lightning ionizes the air and essentially explodes it, causing a massive burst of x rays. This has only been recently discovered.
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Ben Franklin supposedly captured energy from lightning in a Leyden Jar.
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